A conversation and a vermouth between two creative minds: Alba, Eufònic curator, master of generative graphics and visual artist (she opened Grec Festival in Barcelona with Kronos Quartet last june); Elena is a new-media visual and creative artist, habitual in transmedia research art centres like Medialab Prado or Matadero. They will be talking about everything that concerns them: visualists, artists of proximity and ecological responsibility in creation.